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Lawpalooza! Next week’s many law-related events

Posted by Diane on 8th November 2011

What a crazy conglomeration of events we’ve got scheduled next week, all catering to the legal eagles out there.  I’m out of breath just listing them all.  Here’s the rundown:

*Just added*
Vermont Law School Admissions Visit
Tuesday, 11/15, at noon
E23 Machmer

Vermont Law School boasts the most respected environmental law program in the country.  Come meet with a VLS Admissions counselor to learn more about the school.

Color of Justice panel
sponsored by the National Association of Women Judges
Wednesday, 11/16, 3:00 – 5:30 pm
Western New England University School of Law (Springfield, Mass.)

A truly unparalleled opportunity to meet and hear from over a dozen female judges and attorneys about their career paths and experiences.  Click through the title for the list of jurists at all levels of our state judiciary — from the Supreme Judicial Court on down to several local trial courts. (I’m so excited about this one, I’ll be heading down to Western New England myself!)

* Just added *
CMASS Law Night

Thursday, 11/17, 6:00 – 8:00 pm
Wilder Hall 201

Hear the success stories of ALANA students  from UConn Law and Western New England Law, and get your questions answered by the admissions directors from both schools (as well as your faithful pre-law advisor). Brought to you in part by the Center for Multicultural Advancement and Student Success (CMASS).

Lawyer-Alum career talk: Carrie Pollak, Esq.
Friday, 11/18 at noon
W13 Machmer

You’ll definitely want to hear UMass alum Carrie Pollak (Legal Studies and English ’04, Cornell Law ’08) talk about her experiences in both a very large law firm in Boston, and her current mid-size firm in Ithaca, New York.  Attorney Pollak, a former Army National Guard soldier, practices in the areas of environmental law and land use regulation.

UMass Mock Trial: Second Annual Thanksgiving Classic Invitational Tournament
Friday 11/18 – Sunday 11/20
Isenberg School of Management

Come see a dazzling display of legal skills from over two dozen teams, as they battle it out in a criminal trial.  Come for one round, or come for all four.  Rounds start Friday at 6:30 pm, Saturday at 9 am and 2 pm, and Sunday at 9 am.  This is for anybody who has ever thought about trying out for Mock Trial, or who just wants to watch some excellent trial skills in action.

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Lawyer-Alum Event: Sean Chen, Immigration & Family Law

Posted by Diane on 17th September 2011

Monday, September 26th, 2:00pm
E23 Machmer

Interested in immigration and/or family law?  Come meet with UMass alumni-lawyer Sean Chen (Communication ’03, Suffolk Law School) in an informal talk about legal careers, immigration and family law, and more.  Light refreshments will be served.

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Guest post: Alum/recent law school grad working in tax law

Posted by Diane on 22nd February 2011

Seamus Brennan graduated from UMass Amherst in 2007 with a B.A. in Political Science and a minor in History. He received his law degree from Rutgers-Newark this past May, and now works in the international tax law division of a prominent financial services firm.  Seamus recently contacted the Pre-Law Advising Office, offering to be of assistance to undergrads and alums who are considering law school.  He kindly answered a few questions about his experiences for publication on the blog.

Why did you choose Rutgers-Newark?
I am from northern NJ and I wanted to attend a law school in the metro New York area. Rutgers enabled me to do this while keeping my law school debt low due to the scholarship they gave me and the low in-state tuition.

Which parts of law school surprised you?
The amount of work required the first year exceeded my expectations. Everyone I talked to who graduated from law school told me the first year was the hardest. They weren’t kidding.

What did you enjoy/dislike about law school?
Generally, the one thing I really disliked about law school was that one three or four hour exam determined your entire grade. Hours of reading and studying are distilled to one exam at the end of the semester, and that one exam is the only metric used to determine how well you did in that class.

The experience I enjoyed the most at Rutgers was participating in the federal tax clinic. The tax clinic allowed me to use what I learned in the classroom and apply it in a practical environment. As a member of the tax clinic, I represented low income tax payers before the IRS and I argued motions before the U.S. Tax Court.

What did you do during your summer internships, and how did you get those jobs?
The summer after 1L, I worked at a small law firm (25-50 attorneys) in NJ. I got this job through networking.

The summer after 2L, I split my time between the law firm where I worked the previous summer and the N.J. Tax Court. I got the job at the N.J. Tax Court by sending my resume to every N.J. Tax Court judge and calling every judge’s chambers until I got an interview.

Was it difficult to get a job?
It was very difficult to get a job. Two weeks into the on-campus interview process Lehman Brothers declared bankruptcy. This made a tough process even harder. I had over 30 on-campus interviews while I was at Rutgers, with almost every type of employer: big NYC law firms, big NJ law firms, federal government agencies, state government agencies, smaller NY/NJ law firms, accounting firms, consulting firms, banks, etc.

In the end, I was able to get a great job with a prominent financial services firm doing international tax work in New York City. I believe this was possible because I showed a demonstrated interest in the field: I had great grades in all of my tax classes, I worked in the Rutgers federal tax clinic and at the NJ tax court, and I was the research assistant for a well known tax professor.

What do you enjoy/dislike about your job? How many hours a week are you working?  What kind of work are you doing?
I really enjoy my job because every day I learn something new.  I work anywhere from 50-70 hours a week, depending on what our clients are doing. I work on the tax issues that arise from cross-border M&A [mergers and acquisitions], foreign companies investing in the U.S., U.S. companies investing in other countries, and the tax treatment of different financial instruments.

Is there anything you would have done differently, or anything you’re particularly glad you did do?
I am very glad I found an area of law that interested me while I was in my first year of law school. Because of this, I knew what I wanted to do when I graduated and I could work towards this end the remaining two years.

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Guest post: Recent law grad (and UMass alum) shares some tough realities

Posted by Diane on 18th January 2011

A relatively recent law grad and UMass alum (ISOM, mid-2000′s) contacted me earlier this month with a desire to share with prospective law school applicants from UMass some of the harsh realities he’s faced as a new attorney in today’s economy.  I asked him to write up his story for the blog, and the result is below.  (He’s asked to remain anonymous for this post, but he’s happy to be in contact with any current applicants who would like to learn more — if you’re interested, just email me for his contact information.)

Following my graduation from UMass a few years ago I enrolled at a Top 60 law school in New York City.  Having not known any lawyers growing up, I did not know what to expect or what I wanted to do – only that I enjoyed reasoned arguments and that many of the jobs I aspired to were filled by persons with law degrees.

I realized law school would cost over $40,000 per year in tuition with at least an additional $20,000 in loans annually.  Nevertheless, I was reassured in brochures and in person by law school personnel by the near 100% employment rates, the quoted starting salaries of $160,000 and the summer associate positions worth $30,000.

Indeed, many of the graduates I talked to or heard about in my first years at law school had obtained positions with this range of compensation from large NYC law firms.  Then, in the fall of 2008 the bottom fell out of the global economy and the legal employment market.

Unfortunately, law school is not like college – you cannot wait until the third or fourth year to figure out what you want to do.  There is a predetermined track to obtain gainful legal employment beginning with the summer following your first year.  Generally, you have to get in as a summer associate with a firm and eventually be offered a full-time position.  Failure to follow this path can leave you scrambling down the road.

I did not think I ever wanted to practice law.  However, I eventually realized (a little bit too late) the tremendous value of practicing law for a few or several years.  Even many of the positions I was interested in that are non-legal are often nevertheless filled by persons who practiced law for at least three or four years.  In some ways it is a further continuation of your education, just paid and with a lot more stress.

Perhaps most importantly, by your third-year of law school the loan amounts will be menacing.  Practicing law is one of the few realistic ways in which to even begin to pay off your loans.  By the time I graduated I accumulated over $200,000 in loans.  $200,000!  That’s the equivalent of a small house and a mortgage.  I will be paying that off into my fifties.  And, I assure you, I am a fairly frugal person.

Should you have the opportunity and choose to practice law, your qualifications in legal employment are quickly narrowed.  If the only job you can get out of law school is working in employment law – you will become typecast and have a difficult time changing your practice to a different area of law.  Consequently, the earlier you can identify which area of law you want to practice, the more effective your employment searches can be.

I was a fine but not spectacular student in law school – top 40% GPA with a few extracurricular activities.  Nevertheless, most law firms had simply stopped hiring when I needed a job.  In searching for a job, I compiled a database of every graduate from my law school at law firms in which I was interested in the New York area.  In sum it was over 1,000 lawyers at over 150 law firms. The database took a long time to amass.

I emailed all of them.  I got lots of words of encouragement and sympathy with a few phone calls for networking purposes.  Ultimately, I obtained three interviews out of that massive effort.  In the meantime I had also contacted hundreds of non-legal entities about employment and regularly checked several job boards, including those through my school.  I estimate that I mailed about 2,000 letters and resumes, about 1,500 emails, and spent over 150 hours seeking employment in the year preceding my start of full-time employment.

I accepted a position making less than half what I might have had I graduated three years earlier in an area of law on which I am lukewarm.  Nevertheless, I was tremendously excited to have any employment whatsoever as my loan payments loomed around the corner.

I can only imagine what my law school reports as the employment statistics for my class, the preceding class and subsequent classes.  Most likely they will state that employment was near 90% or something absurd – in reality, the percentage of students who left law school with the type of employment they expected when they entered law school was probably in the single digits.

The truth is law schools produce far more future lawyers than are necessary or can be sustained.  My story applies mostly to those people who are looking for legal employment in a major city, but not necessarily with a BigLaw firm.  There are probably still reasonable opportunities as a suburban lawyer, but the pay will obviously be much less and you’ll be dealing with less interesting work.  Then again, you will probably also work less.  There are important considerations to be balanced.

The legal industry has and is continuing to fundamentally and permanently change.  Legal work is going overseas and law firms are doing the same work with less people.  The fact that law schools and enrollment continue to grow is sad and deceitful.  A law degree can be a tremendously rewarding and valuable accomplishment.  However, most people who start the process of obtaining one have no idea about the realities of legal education or the legal profession.  I didn’t and I sorely wish I did.

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Friday, Nov. 12th: Immigration Law panel at New England Law

Posted by Diane on 9th November 2010

It’s a hike to Boston, I know, but this conference on the future of immigration law and its impact on lawyers seems like a must-attend for those of you who are interested in not just immigration law, but international human rights law more generally.  Not only will it be informative, but it will be a great opportunity to speak with immigration law professors from around the country.  This Friday, November 12th, from 8:30 am to 1;30 pm.  I’d let you out of class for this, and I’m sure some of your other profs would as well.

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Panel: What’s next — JD, MPP, MA or PhD?

Posted by Diane on 13th October 2010

Tuesday, October 19th at 7:00 pm
W24 Machmer

The Political Science Department is presenting a panel designed to help you decide which of those letters you might want to add to your name after college.  Which best matches your career interests, what are the pluses and minuses of each, and what does the admissions process for each look like?  Find more information and details about the panelists here.

(The panel is designed especially for Political Science majors, but all are welcome.)

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Alumni-lawyer networking event a success

Posted by Diane on 23rd October 2009

As covered in the Daily Collegian.

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Lawyer-Alumni Networking Event – Thursday, Oct. 22nd

Posted by Diane on 15th October 2009

This coming Thursday, you’ll have the opportunity to meet one-on-one with a number of UMass alumni who are currently practicing attorneys in a variety of fields.  To maximize the opportunity for individual connections, we will use a “speed-networking” format. Small groups of students will meet with each alumnus/a to converse with and ask questions about their career experiences. After 8-10 minutes with one of the graduates, students will move on until they have met with each of the alumni participants. At the conclusion of the program, students will have the opportunity to meet informally with the alumni.

The attorneys work in a variety of fields and practice settings, giving you a unique opportunity to compare (and learn from) their experiences.

The panelists include:

  • Dwight Merriam (’68, Sociology), Partner, Robinson & Cole, Hartford, CT; specializing in real estate and land use management law
  • Denise Gaudet (’77, Economics), Assistant General Counsel, Sovereign Bank, Boston, MA; specializing in banking and commercial transactions
  • Carrie Payne (’04, Legal Studies and English), Associate, Greenberg Traurig, LLP in Boston, MA; specializing in commercial litigation and environmental law
  • Colin Keefe (’91, Political Science), Solo practitioner, Law Offices of Colin Keefe, Leeds, MA; specializing in criminal defense
  • Michael Gove (’01, Political Science and History), Associate, Lyon & Fitzpatrick, LLP, Holyoke, MA; specializing in business law, employment law, estate planning, landlord-tenant law and zoning law

Thursday, October 22nd — 5:30 pm
SBS Advising Center — 128 Thompson
Register in advance

Co-sponsored by the College of Social & Behavioral Sciences, Commonwealth College, the UMass Amherst Alumni Association, and the Pre-law Advising Office.

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Save the date — October 22 at 5:30 pm

Posted by Diane on 10th September 2009

Thursday, October 22, 2009
5:30 pm — SBS Advising Center
Lawyer-Alumni Speed Interviewing

Meet one-on-one with a number of UMass alums currently practicing in a variety of specialties. Great opportunity to network and learn more about specific practice areas. More details coming soon.

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Combating Violence with Law — UMass Lawyer-Alumni event

Posted by Diane on 18th March 2009

Combating Violence with Law –
A Talk with UMass Alumni Attorney Sharon Stapel
Friday, April 3rd at 1:00 pm
620 Thompson

Sharon Stapel (Psych ’91, CUNY Law ’98) has spent her 20-year career working to end violence against women and members of the LGBT community. During and after college, she was a dedicated advocate for survivors of domestic violence, from Northampton to South Africa. After graduating from CUNY Law in 1998, Sharon created the first Domestic Violence Project at the Legal Aid Society of New York, and later headed a similar project at South Brooklyn Legal Services.

In July 2008, Sharon became the Executive Director of New York’s Anti-Violence Project, which serves New York’s lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer and HIV-affected communities.

Co-sponsored with the Stonewall Center and the Everywoman’s Center

Open to all

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